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Dec 28, 2012 4:00pm PST
in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say a all along. >> take a listen to the president's tone and tell me if you think somebody has changed. >> ordinary folks. they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. >> joy, is this is same kind of negotiator we saw in the first term? >> i'll tell you, richard. one of the things you notice that the president didn't do was offer any new plan. i think he's laying this debacle squarely at the feet of congress. and the president, i think, helped himself by previously making some offers that even his base was uncomfortable with. it's clear to everyone watching that he's been reasonable to try to make offers. i think he's expressing plopperly the frustration of the american people. >> it's almo
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 5:00am PST
negotiations and john boehner and senate leader are working on a deal this morning to avoid the fiscal cliff, or as chris hayes and i call it, the fiscal curve. the deadline is soft. it's not like every american is going to be handed a bill on january 1st and there's way to manage the damage if the country goes over. the senate is set to convene this afternoon with the house to follow tonight. there's a chance that a compromise will be reached, less than 48 hours before tax rates revert to their clinton dasher are levels and board across the board spending cuts talk effect. when the president took to the podium friday afternoon to urge the law enforcements to get their act together with he didn't exactly project confidence. >> this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> this may be why the pr
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 7:00am PST
with the brookings institution and an msnbc contributor. e.j., great to see you, as always. john boehner sits to the left of center of his caucus. can he work out a deal without inciting a full-scale revolt? >> well, we don't know that, but i think he'll have to test it. that really tells you something about how conservative the republican caucus has done. john boehner is a good conservative. what we have learned from last week is that if you give the 30 to 60, whatever the actual number was, we can't know for issue, but 30 to 60 of the most conservative republicans veto power, you will never get a reasonable solution. president obama made a lot of concessions to john boehner. a lot of liberals didn't like all the concessions he made. he limited the reach of the tax cut, changed the indexing of social security. he put that stuff in there to get republican votes. i think if john boehner -- and it would take courage, said we're going to let the whole housework its will, you can't pass a lot of reasonable bills if you worked from the center out instead of starting from the far right and see what
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 7:00am PST
, but ultimately john boehner has said he wants the majority of republican members of the house to vote for whatever deal happens. that's a key factor. they have to agree to something that president obama also agrees to. that's a big gap. basically he's -- i don't know that there's 120 house republican votes for that yet. plan b was voted on, a -- house republicans wouldn't approve of that, either. the how is like a big block here on any kind of permanent deal. >>> i want to bring in debbie wasserman schultz, florida democrat and head of the dnc. congresswoman, when you look at what's happening today, you know, this meeting that's going to be happening at 3:00 p.m., what's going to be talked about there, what do you think? >> look, as long as the leaders are talking, there is still time for us to hammer out a deand prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff. what will be talked about today is what do the outlines and parameters of a possible deal look like that can be agreed to by a majority of democrats and republicans. really i think the key thing here is, will john boehner, instead
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 3:00am PST
president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. i just have to repeat. you know, outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern, over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repeat, congress, you are te
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> harris: tonight, that is exactly where we stand. at the edge of a cliff throwing blame for how you we got here. a lot of finger pointing and no answers as i said and just days remaining until tax increases and spending cuts all kick in and we all feel the pain. mike emanuel live with the news for us tonight on capitol hill. top democrats seem to be suggesting they cannot cut a deal without republican help. >> well, harris, that is right. and so they are asking what it will take to at least get some republican support. they say time is so critical. they cannot just roll out new legislation only to have the republic
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story? he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even actually a political party. it's a faction of tea party people telling the most republicans that they're not playing ball with them. >>> also tonight, hating hillary. that was the intriguing idea behind a politico story. when will the right learn to rekindle its hatred for hillary. everybody played the hillary card lately saying how great she was on the right so they could make obama look bad. at some point they will have to confront hillary clinton herself as the chief democrat in the country. when will they pivot? >>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. omnipotent of opport
FOX News
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
. is something he said to speaker john boehner leaving room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions in what is threatening to strike you right in the wallet. share everything. share brotherly love. share one up's. mom ? mom ? the share everything plan. lets your family share a pool of data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. now get a lucid by lg, free. read the headlines and they say the president is giving up his vacation to negotiate a fiscal cliff deal but is something he said before leaving for hawaii leaving room for negotiations? what are we talking about? set it up. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge compromise to avert the fiscal cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing's done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal, it will be unpalatable f
FOX News
Dec 29, 2012 3:00pm PST
than $250,000 a year should pay more. higher tax rate. john boehner floated a plan that would have kept low rates for those making up to a million dollars. two house members talked to us earlier today about where the tax issue is likely heading. >> the $400,000 level seems to me to be about right. that represents about the top 1% of income earners in the country. we need to save tax hikes on as many americans as we can. i kind of feel like i'm a life guard and we got to save as many people from crown not guilty higher taxes as we can. >> the challenge is finding the right figure to win some republican support in the senate and attract enough votes to pass the house. kelly. >> kelly: interesting comment right there, feeling like a life guard. many people are wondering if they're going to do that on capitol hill. thanks so much. going to be an interesting new year. watch fox sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks with lindsey graham and nine fine stein. check your -- diane feinstein. >> heather: new york city police have a woman in custody who they believe killed a man by pushing him in fro
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 7:00pm PST
there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday night. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever they r and we are here trying to get something done. >> president obama called leaders last night and tomorrow afternoon we will meet with the speaker and mix mcconnel and harry reid to see if they can av
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 10:00pm PST
not bring them along. >> john boehner doesn't seem to have full control of his caucus. >> they were this close. >> the republicans will be blamed. >> they were this close to a solution. >> we're going to head over that cliff. >> i know it's hard for the republicans. the minute those leaders move forward, they get viscerated. >> guns shouldn't be available for anyone, any time, anywhere. >> the conversation still wages on. >> its plan to add more guns to schools. >> a completely dumb-ass idea. >> i don't think the nra is listening. >> you can call it whatever you want to call it. >> congress hasn't confirmed the director of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. >> dysfunctional, dysfunctional, dysfunctional congress. >> we're not going to allow what has happened in the past to go on. >> congress has just three business days to pass legislation to avoid going over the fiscal curb. president obama has cut his hawaii vacation short and is on his way back to washington. the democratic senate will be in session tomorrow but the republicans are staying home. the republican aides tel
FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 4:00pm PST
is that the president basically told john boehner and mitch mcconnell the republican leaders in the room here for this meeting that he wants an up or down vote on his scaled back bill to try to avoid this fiscal cliff. and he basically turned on them and said so what's your response? what's your move? the next move is yours. and then i'm told that mitch mcconnell and harry reid, the democratic leader in the senate jumped in before john boehner really got a chance to fully respond and say, look, we will take the ball and try to pass a bipartisan bill in the senate. the president responded by saying i will give you a day or two but we're running out of time. if you don't get it done in the senate. i want an up or down vote. then he came out and addressed reporters in the briefing room it is clear that the president is only cautiously optimistic that this is going to take a look. take a listen. >> it if there are disagreements they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. it needs to stop. i'm moderately optimistic t
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 10:00am PST
issue. he gave coverage to republicans to be able to go with john boehner's suggestion. there's severe dysfunction in washington, particular dysfunction in the republican house congress at the moment. but that's another issue we'll discuss. let me bring annie lowry into this discussion. senior economic policy reporter at "the new york times." the debt ceiling, the fiscal cliff. we keep trying to solve storms of our own making. nothing being discussed this weekend as steven just made clear. any closer to solving our long-term issues? what we are in at the moment, the reason you are on tv with me right now is this is crisis management that washington is in right now. it doesn't make any sense. >> yeah. it doesn't. and i think that if you look even a month or two ago, folks were talking about starting a tax reform, clean up the code, freeing up money to invest in things like education. nobody's talking about that anymore. you know, right now they're really struggling to figure out what to do with the tax cuts. and, you know, they're not even talking about the sequester very much anymore,
FOX News
Dec 29, 2012 1:00pm PST
: sources say john boehner referred to his senate colleagues and told them house leaders would consider their plan. one item raising the debt limit is not expected to be a part of any final compromise. if senate leaders fail the president wants congress to vote his plan keeping tax cuts for making $250,000 a year less, extending unemployment benefits for some 2 million people and delaying spending cuts until later this year. white house officials that top senate republican will be a key force in getting a deal after he made these comments. >> we are engaged in discussions majority leader and white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and majority leader can make to his conference. >>> among the issues to be hammered out is income level for extending president bush tax cuts. they send it on $250,000 but it sounds like $400,000 is where negotiations are heading. a leading republican senator says permanent is key giving certainty on tax rates that g.o.p. senators say a permanent solution for the alternativ
FOX News
Dec 29, 2012 3:00am PST
war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there is still john boehner and the house republicans. i'm not modestly optimistic. anything through the house at this point. >> juliet: like lindsey gram said two days ago when you call a meeting publicly in washington it usually turns out to be the dog and pony show or theater basically. honestly calling at this late hour. they met for an hour. what could really go down in that type of meeting? things can go down but really, it's just at the edge. they waited so long. they all went on their vacations. >> clayton: here are some things on the table to answer those questions perhaps. generalities. we don't know what's been tabled. democrats still strong about this. they say they were, yeah, here is -- take a look at this. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less. we know that's there. that may shift because we are hearing from republicans they may be willing to go as high as $500,000 a year. of the extended. >> dave: that's my guess. >> extending unemployment tax benefits for 2 million folks still unemployed.
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 8:00am PST
. and john boehner, the speaker out house, the individual with whom the president is negotiating for, gosh, a year and a half now and trying to do a lot of things and trying to avert the fiscal cliff, no plans announced for him to return to washington. the house of representatives, their public stand, the republican leadership at any rate is that it is up to the senate to act. and the president before he left for hawaii last friday pointed out that there is a senate bill. he said he'll try to get a smaller bill and does what he said all along and raise tax rates on those couples filing jointly making more than $250,000 a year and extending unemployment benefits, something that is very important to a lot of americans who have been out of work for a very long time. one problem there, thomas. the very same bill or very near identical bill passed the senate last summer and languishing in the house of representatives. the threshold question has been and remains will the house of representatives stroet do something that a majority of republicans would go against? highly unlikely, thomas, and mor
FOX Business
Dec 26, 2012 7:00pm EST
are watching john boehner, playing out on a national stage a game i am not sure the national media quite gets ors perhaps even they as astute asst they are, the game of politics they quite get.g this is everything for a lot of people, what do you make of it>i in their attitudes, their demeanor, their personality? >> everybody is trying to beth right, it needs to happen for what is best for our country anm in this country. >> is almost a testosterone contest. it is not about winning for the american people is about winning for the party, i can do it better than you, it has to be who wins, w who loses? >> psychologically it is unsettling because it interferes with their comfort level in terms of spending and feelingf comfortable.th >> i don't think about it, they noticed a game of chicken when it comes to this fiscal cliff. lou: etc. look a except when wet projections. talking about another recession.
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 5:00am PST
no republicans block the bill. for house speaker john boehner to agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor and leader nancy pelosi to predict a huge number of democrats needed to pass it. but if that plan falling through -- >> then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> reporter: the president's basic package has much more for democrats to like. so don't expect that to get very far, but all sides now agree the senate must first pass a bill before the house makes any kind of move. so all eyes will be on mitch mcconnell and harry reid and their negotiatorsoled up on capitol hill. the senate comes back into session at 1:00 on sunday. christi, alison? >>> and the cliffhanger continues. jessica yellin, thanks. >>> and january 1st is the deadline to make a deal on the fiscal cliff. for some states, it's a day that a series of new laws are going to take effect. let me get you clued in here. in california, talking more than 800 new laws, including one requiring apartments and condos to install carbon monoxide detectors. separately, employers will
FOX News
Dec 25, 2012 3:00pm PST
't lead at once. john boehner tried to lead a fractious republican congress get nothing help from democrats in the house or in from harry reid, or the president. it turned out he couldn't deliver first. it's up to the president now. the president has the come back. put his proposal on the table. i assume the senate controlled by the democrats could pass it. then the house republicans, fair to say to speaker boehner and house republicans you will let us go over the cliff or swallow and accept something you don't like much. i think the ball is in the president's court. >> doug: juan, others are saying that the ball is in the senate hands right now. >> the scenario most likely is speaker boehner abandoned by the troops. no investment of confidence in him or his negotiating skillnous you look at president obama and the senate. republicans in the senate who are open to some kind of deal with president obama and the democrats in the senate. if you have ten-plus republicans, willing to sign on to some kind of deal, that puts pressure on the house. it might create an opening for speaker b
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 10:00pm PST
his career in a trumped up fake scandal that rick santorum and john boehner created in the '90s, a house banking scandal. he lost his career, put on trial, exonerated, but he spent the last 20 years unappreciated. and i think he deserves recognition, joe early. >> phyllis diller. >> they were key makers. >> and rose to fame in the same era, i am very sorry to see go whitney houston. we're going to be back with more of our last word holiday show. ♪ [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. ♪ >>> welcome back to "the last word," holiday party. our new category is the biggest surprise of 2012. karen finney, what was the biggest surprise of 2012. >> that we were able to call the election around 11:00. >> i actually thought it would happen, by the time we got to california, closing time we would know. >> i really thou
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 8:00am PST
. >> they're willing to take us over the fiscal cliff essentially controls john boehner, preventing him from being able to make any reasonable deal to avoid taxes increasing on 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. >> being held hostage. knew that the clock was ticking. >> well, i don't know if it's so much that he boxed himself in. there is a fact out there that we now see more districts represented by people who win by over 20%, so they are hyper-partisan. yes, there are more republicans who are hyper-partisan than there are democrats. >> is boehner betting on the president losing? >> i don't know. i think what he was betting on is he could play his cards a little better. where he really lost control was on the parliament b move. i don't know what happened there. i think peel were hopeful they could come to a deal, but for a big deal to happen action he wood to have gone without the majority in congress, that could have led to a bigger deal, which he wasn't ready to do now, but perhaps after he's reelected speaker with the new congress in, he could put forward. >> we all have words
FOX Business
Dec 28, 2012 7:00pm EST
their key issue, tax cuts. lou: there has been no talk of growth in this economy. john boehner, the republican leadership, those who are leaving the party, there has been no talk there will be no tax hikes. unwilling and unable perhaps, for what will ensue of the fiscal cliff. but the fact is that we are looking at a real prospect that the republicans will be held responsible and must plan be actually has the effect of shifting some of the responsibility to the president read what you think are the odds? >> i think he will be held responsible for the economy in 2013 and 2014. you cannot blame george w. bush anymore. they control the senate. it is their economy for sure. so i think that you're going to see a real problem in 2013 and 2014, but i do think it's obama's economy now. the republicans passed the tax cuts for one group, let's say all the way through, not the very top group, i don't know where that negotiation is going to come out, but if they do that, i think that they will be held blameless for the economy. lou: as we wrap up here, i would like to ask you a question th
FOX News
Dec 30, 2012 3:00am PST
on to a couple of others, if we can spin through to give you an example. john boehner increase of $1,000, so they're not enormous raises, they are fairly mottdest, right, peter? >> they are fairly modest, it affects not only congress, but the supreme court justices and also includes senior executives in the executive branch. the cost of this, according to the congressional budget office, is going to be about 1 billion dollars a year with this increase for senior executives in government. so, literally, think about this. they're talking about the fiscal cliff, they're talking about raising taxes and cutting spending. the only thing that's been accomplished thus far is to raise spending by about a billion dollars a year. >> dave: i think in particular rubs americans the wrong way when they see this, members of congress average salary, 174,000. average american, $48,000. that's on top of the fact that we see all the time, they take off, these long recesses and oh, by the way not passing bills and on top of this, this was by executive order, the president did this himself. >> yeah, it was done late a
FOX Business
Dec 28, 2012 9:20am EST
house this afternoon. that is a mistake. i don't think the senator should have said that. >> john boehner is not a dictator. he is being held hostage by members of his caucus who won't let him negotiate. i don't think it's fair to say he is a dictator of any kind. he has been trying to work something out, even raising taxes on people over $1 million. people of his own caucus won't let him do that. stuart: you are shining appraise -- >> i feel bad for the guy. i have been saying for weeks he lost control of the caucus. stuart: i won't point blamed either side. doesn't look like we have a deal. we are in a real mess and i'm not pointing the blame on either side period. i am saying we have a fundamental problem with america's political system. seems to me all we do is spend money in return for buying votes. what do you say? >> more fundamental than that. there's ssmething called gerrymandering, when you have congressional districts they are not competitive. either party, not being defeated by the opposing party but by primary voters, third they're being killed by people to the right
CNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm EST
they can't overcome otherwise. >> remind us, john, a mini deal is composed in the senate but still has to pass through house republicans and boehner or not? >> yes. and the question about the mini deal would be, what we're talking about, just to make clear for our viewers, would be a temporary extension of tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, a couple of months, for example, a temporary turn-off of the sequester, the automatic cuts equally in defense and nondefense programs that nobody wants to happen, you temporarily turn those off, you extend unemployment benefits, you do something about doctor payments under medicare. if that happens, and clears the senate, there would be a bipartisan majority in the senate if it is allowed to get to the floor, then you would have to have speaker boehner agree to put that on the floor, it would pass the house almost certainly, but the speaker has been reluctant to put any bill on the floor for a vote that doesn't have the support of a majority of his own members, of republican members. he would have to breach that rule in order for it to happen befo
CNBC
Dec 24, 2012 9:00am EST
to give on anything and lose some of his base if he feels that boehner can't even deliver his own package. so they greet it a little more negatively than the full market. >> on the side of senator john bar oso said over the weekend, said the president senses victory at the bottom of that cliff. in other words, if they can't deliver on the cliff, most people blame republicans anyway. so politically there is some argument to be made for going over. >> well, yes, it would seem to favor the white house. so that might be tempting. on the one side, as i say, no sense giving in if you think the man you're negotiating with can't deliver anything. it could get to be very difficult. again, we're watching for little signs like, will the treasury ask companies to change the withholding. if not, then they're assuming that the trip over the cliff is going to be very, very brief. so we'll see how -- >> if they don't, though, that suggests it might be a longer run over this cliff. >> oh, if they do come in and say we'd like you to take another look at your withholding, then that would mean they may be lo
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